Implying other girls like you is far superior to overtly stating it
Subtlety and subtext are their own superpowers, and ones women wield well
A player & seduction artist faces a situation... he’s married and sleeping with two girls, one of whom he needs to transition away from because it is good to catch but then release women who want families. With the other, who he met at the gym, things are fine. He wants to know...
What's one thing I can do to imply I'm f*cking another girl but not being direct about it but also hinting at it or actions that show? My goal is to inspire desire out of jealousy, or perhaps that is not the right term.
I am seeking out another girl to replace First Girl as well. Yet the sex is pretty fun when I get to make her cry during anal or throat fuck her til she pukes. She's more of a fuck doll that's been a favorite, like a comfortable blanket a child cherishes.
A little history on First Girl… unlike my wife or Gym Girl, who are both wholesome and normal, First Girl… well, she’s a mess: anxious, emotional, a lot of drama, 30 going on 31 and thinks she’s still in her prime…but I’m also a Mediterranean type of man, who thrives on drama… I love the thrills of hot sex after some steamy drama.
Most men might want a more sedate, predictable experience, but this player loves tumult. First Girl gives him drama and the really hot and nasty sex that follows, especially “the daddy-daughter dynamic, the use of a girl as a cum depository, and me being able to fulfill some of violent tendencies in the bedroom,” whereas he’d rather not fulfill those with an actual normal girl, or his wife (i.e. painful crying anal, throat fucking til she pukes, paddle on the ass to where she can’t sit down the next day). The player also says he adds to First Girl’s life in terms of guidance, advice, companionship, fulfilling sex, etc., so it’s not a completely one-sided relationship.
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I myself am not fond of sex that is quite so violent but I guess both him and the girl are. The word “imply” is good because a guy doesn’t need to say he’s f*cking other girls. The girl will just know. There are lots of indirect ways to tell her. A man can say things like, “girls always leave hair ties and things like that to mark their territory.” Or, “girls sometimes get competitively jealous when they compete for a man.” Generalizations that aren’t overtly specific but that everyone understands. Guys who f*ck have different concerns and worldviews than guys who don’t. “How often do you fantasize about group sex?”, same idea. Or he can tell the girls that he loves the Huberman lifestyle… and he’s not talking about cold plunges or scammy supplements. Personally I think that guys dumb enough to buy Huberman’s supplements kind of deserve what they get, but his experience as a player are undeniable.
I also think he (the player, not Huberman, although this advice applies to Huberman as well) should invite her to a sex club / sex party... but my ways are not for all guys.
His question edges close to “dread game,” one of the dumber, yet still somewhat common, ideas. “Dread game” is basically trying to instill jealousy in the girl by making her think the guy might leave her for another girl, or that another girl is overtly moving in on her territory. This is not great game, particularly for normal, healthy girls. Normal, healthy girls want a guy who other girls want, but not a guy who is going to chuck them over. Despite what is said in that link about “dread game,” trying to put girls on edge is going to make them want to pull away,
I catch a lot of hostility from the femosphere for even suggesting a Man directly foster competition anxiety in his LTR, but the underlying reason for this venom is a preexisting condition of dread in women that can barely be tolerated when it’s under the surface, much less when it’s exposed.
“Anxiety” is already an underlying problem for a lot of chicks, one that chicks need guys to reduce and alleviate… creating more of it drives normal, healthy chicks away. What girl is attracted by anxiety? One who is already a mess, and who comes from messed up families. I dunno, I guess some guys want those chicks... good for them I guess... these are not top-tier chicks. The link to dread game goes to Rollo Tomassi, who says some interesting stuff, but I’m not sure he actually knows much about chicks, or how to develop win-and-help-win relationships.
Chicks DO, however, like flirting. They like guys who other girls like. They like some give and take, especially early on. They like knowing the guy has options but has picked her. They do not typically like being overtly told that the guy is f*cking other chicks. If they do… I guess the Mediterranean man will appreciate them? I’m made of a bit more northern and chillier stuff. Not enough sun in my life, too much reading books and f*cking through the cold winter months.
Implication is superior. In communication there is usually, almost always really, a text and subtext. Maybe in highly technical conversations text and subtext merge, but in everyday conversations they don’t. Implicit > explicit with girls. Male nerds routinely fail to understand this regarding chicks. In talking to chicks, the goal is very rarely to get to the “right” answer, like a guy would do in solving a theorem or figuring out the best way to play poker. Math, physics, engineering, medical research, etc. are all overwhelmingly male domains with right answers. Social work, teaching, childcare, etc. are all overwhelmingly female domains with no answers, lots of feelings... and low pay. The goal in talking to chicks is to convey high status, conversational fluency, etc., but without looking like a try-hard jerk.
Look, I don’t make the rules, and I didn’t write female software. Blame mother nature. Consider the kinds of pr0n men like versus what women like. Men like the kind of pr0n in which a random hot woman, no story necessary, is ready to f*ck. In the video, he sees her p*ssy up close and personal. Everything is explicit. Women, however, like written pr0n, called “romance novels,” in which the man and woman relate to each other before the consummation. The man is powerful and intelligent enough to get any woman but is somehow tamed by the woman and the woman’s magic p*ssy into desiring only her... whereas in real life men who can get lots of women often do. The romance novel is filled with tension and innuendo. The visual pr0n men like have neither. People show up, they f*ck, they get off, then the guy wanders off and learns how to use a miter saw to build a spanking bench.
In basic seduction arts, guys learn innuendo. “Come back and listen to me play guitar.” “Let’s watch A Star is Born at my place.” “Mind if I run up to use your bathroom?” These are all pretenses. Both parties know they are pretenses and that is okay. Chicks prefer indirection. Chicks like it when it “just happens.” That is why guys learn to deal with logistics. Smart guys get those lights that turn red for their apartments, cause they know chicks don’t want 6000K daylight bulbs shining light on everything. What I wrote about in “Snapchat in game: ‘Wish this was you’” is in a sense bad game because it is way too explicit... but I only used it as a last-ditch effort, and for my own amusement... and it is direct evidence that “girls like me.” At least that girl did. Violate the rule if you understand the rule.
Less is more. Girls know. They can see how you handle other girls. Random example. You’re on a date with a girl. You get drinks from the bar. You’re bringing them back to the table. You kind of bump into another girl on the way. You turn to her table and are like, “Watch out for this girl, cause I bet she’s trouble.” They laugh. Your date sees you. Most guys can’t make effective contact with other people. You do. She knows you know how to flirt. If she calls you on it, you laugh and say, “Oh, ha, I was just having a good time. Tell me about the last time you had a great time.” It’s a redirect. She’s seen you be cheeky-funny. She knows without you knowing. As you practice the game, you get better at these little details. They become automatic, the way a coder drills stacks, queues, linked lists, and rooted trees, until implementing them becomes fluently automatic. Anything worth doing is worth drilling.
It’s not dread, it’s fun. Girls look to guys to alleviate dread. When I used to pitch group sex to chicks, the goal was to make the experience positive-sum and fun. It was about US becoming closer, in part by having wild experiences. If you try to make it negative sum, about anxiety... it won’t work. Chicks have too much anxiety already.
Guys who are good at the game get good at living with, fostering, and enhancing sexual tension. I was terrible at tension when I was young and would weasel out of it as fast as possible. When I learned to let it simmer… things improved.
Spend enough time listening to women and everything I’ve said will become obvious and second nature.
Over time, if the relationship isn’t advancing, a girl who is healthy and normal will leave. As she should. That is one reason I like non-monogamy strategies for retention... they can keep a given girl around, while I pursue a couple other girls.
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With my low experience and relatively bad “insinuation” skills, this is what I’ve come up with:
- condom wrappers she knows you didn’t use on her in a natural but also semi obvious place
- pictures of you and a girl being close but not lovey-dovey on instagram, enough to make someone think there could be more but without showing it
- “accidental” articles of clothes left behind from a girl at your place
- for a newer girl, on a date: check her fingernails, qualify her on their cleanliness and trimming. Say something to the effect that good hygiene of the hands is important to you (and she might look at your well-trimmed fingernails in turn, which would imply that you have a reason for having short fingernails)
- “accidentally” forget to put away toys you used on another girl, notice them and put them away
Use your intuition and many grains of salt towards this advice/suggestions.
I think flirting and kino in front of the girl would be enough. I would be honest with the girl really ( not the wife obviously), that you both can see other people. Personally I think so much drama is potentially dangerous and can get you in trouble with both the civil (divorce) or criminal (*ape accusations) law