Around the web, with “picky” women, daygame hot streaks, and raising status

Status is one of those key issues that isn't properly discussed

• On leaving a cult, but also more importantly,

A healthy relationship with both parents and a normal adolescent romantic awakening: no ‘red-pill’ guru had both. Like all ideologies constructed around a master narrative to explain the world, ‘red-pill’ concepts are founded on a grain of truth and distorted to massive proportions to attract a target audience. In this sense, the ‘red pill’ is no different from Marxism, radical feminism, or any other ideology that preys on minds desperate for clarity in a world that is full of complexity.

The writer also finds a conclusion consistent with |The curious, cautionary fates of many of the guys who go deep into game and Internet.|

• “I’m picky” is a sad cope single women use for failure. Smart women have families, dumb ones repeat lame cope.

• Guys ask me about masculinity, how to be more masculine, etc., because I’ve mentioned its importance. The topic is good, but after 620 posts and two books... it’s going to be a topic for someone else. If that person is you, and you write about it, link me... most of what passes for “masculinity” is, sadly, bullshit. The real thing is not about muscles per se, it’s not about putting people (including women) down, it’s not about how much $ you make (or spend). The guys most into talking about masculinity are least able to recognize it. YouTubers and podcasters may be the worst... authentically masculine guys are probably uninterested in YouTube or podcasting.

• Wolfe Daygame gets a hot streak. Wolfe’s blog is good. He has also now moved from London to somewhere in Europe.

• Scaling the Mountain’s first bonafide two on two date. The lays were probably there but one of the girls was on her period. If you are interested in reaching the next level, like Scaling the Mountain, the free book is for you, or posts like this.

• Feminism, direct power, indirect power. Also about statements as text versus statements as subtext. Women prefer subtext, men, text. Male nerds get this wrong in talking to women.

• Daygame Breeze falls in love? I leave a comment for him, too, scroll down to read it. The game is great for a season of a man’s life, but it should not be his whole life, for it is not deep nor rich enough for that. Breeze updated on Twitter that he thinks he lost this one, probably due to the lie about his age. A guy who is late 30s and the girl is 25... it’s not impossible for that to work long term, but it’s a challenge... even 27 is more compatible than 25. Breeze says, “My daygame is the best it’s ever been, but don’t be fooled by red pill lore. The male wall is very real.”

• Stop being mean to slutty women | It codes as low status and doesn't accomplish anything. Much deeper than is suggested by the title, although most of you lack the IQ and attention span for it. I’m not nearly rich enough for this to apply to me in full...

A guy who gets laid easily isn’t thinking about minimizing the chance his wife cheats on him or divorces him. He’s thinking about maximizing the chance that she lets him get a side chick or will be down for a threesome. It’s not about raising the floor so much as raising the ceiling”

But it’s in the spirit of what I write about on RQ. There just aren’t that many guys to whom this applies. Most of the guys in the seduction/ game / “red pill” / masculinity world are not in fact getting laid much. To them something reading RQ is probably like trying to communicate with a Martian.

• “How I swallowed the Red Pill without taking damage,” also by Scaling the Mountain. To me, pickup and seduction arts are improvable skills, and they’re the only really interesting part of whatever it is that men are doing online. Lots of interesting and quotable comments, like, “I’d be surprised to find any truly feminist positive-minded self-improvement spaces, because I see effective self-improvement as fundamentally agency-based and thus male-coded and reliant on autistic style.”

• The wisdom of Coleman Hughes,

COWEN: Here’s a reader question, and I quote: “For other men who share your political views, what’s your advice on dating women? It’s hard to find ones who are not woke and not socially ignorant, crazy conspiracy theorists at the same time.”

HUGHES: My advice would be, do not talk about politics on the first date. In fact, I would say don’t raise it at all. It will inevitably come up, but delay the time that it comes up as long as possible.

You’re not there to discuss politics. You’re there to meet a woman that might potentially be a life partner, right? Insofar as you go on a first date and a second date and you begin to like each other’s nonpolitical attributes, once politics comes up and there are differences between you two, you may be surprised in her ability to tolerate those political differences once she’s realized that she likes a lot of your nonpolitical attributes. And in fact, she may surprise herself in her ability to tolerate different opinions, and you may surprise yourself.

You will recognize echoes of this here on Red Quest, “Getting laid is better than parochial political opinions | Focus on what matters and what's in your control.” Maybe Hughes is an RQ lurker. If so, hi.

• “We must, we must, we must increase our bust! | Most girls are much more excited than they are distressed by the onset of puberty.” The people you hear whining online are mostly antisocial and have problems, which is why they’re online so much. Normal people have different, more normal experiences of the world. “As for attention from men… we mostly liked that too.”

• |The Inexperienced Girl who Made Love to My Girlfriend (3some)|, NSFW, by Andy at Kill Your Inner Loser. His deployment of non-monogamy is consistent with the strategies in the free RQ book.  I mention the “consistency” of different aspects of seduction artistry / game because there are not that many fundamental principles / ideas, and the core ones are not that complex, although mastering them is for many guys...

• How much spring break can anyone stand?

• When you stop eating all the sugar.

• Choosing a romantic partner.

• I was listening to a not-great podcast with Chris Williams and Neil Strauss (wrote The Game), but Strauss had a couple interesting things to say...

If I look back on The Game, there's so many different issues around it, negative and positive and everything else. But I see it as a lot of sort of neurodivergent people trying to learn how to socially interact, including myself, right? And so for me, I needed those little [tricks] to just tell me what to say, like how to angle my body. I was so uncomfortable around people. And then once I learned it, then I could let it go the same way you learn anything, which is sort of learning the rules and then throwing them out.

The game is useful but not the end of things... it is about learning to build bridges between people, and it is widely misunderstood by critics. The better your own social skills become, the more you realize how bad most people’s are.

Strauss also says,

I think that men are being made to pay for the sins of a patriarchy that they no longer feel like they're a part of at the moment. They're being told how privileged they are and how fortunate they are to have all of these different advantages. And quite rightly, there are outliers at the top, the Elon Musks, the Bezoses of the world, the NBA players, the NFL players. But I don't think that that fully captures the male experience. And I think that a lot of men don't feel like their... they feel like their worries are being dismissed out of hand by a whining class, this sort of chattering class. Meanwhile, suicide, depression, friendlessness, loneliness, sexlessness, health, all of the problems that we know that men have. And I think that it's making them feel quite embittered toward the world because what they're saying is, "I'm suffering and you don't care, so fuck you. I'm not going to play your game."

I agree with this read but think the solution is to focus on winning, and achieving status / coolness first. Many of the guys suffer problems disproportionate to men are not in good positions to have their justifiable grievances heard. There’s also the sad truth that men are the disposable sex and all societies use low-status men to keep the society running at cost to those men themselves.

About the podcast overall, Williamson has some interesting speakers on it but moves too slowly, and asks about too many obvious topics, instead of focusing on what’s new / different / novel.

Running podcasts through Whisper and then selecting the relevant parts for commentary is now useful and easy…

• If you know of things I should read please message me. I put these “around the web” collections up because there is still some interesting writing being done out there and guys who are not idiots but interested in the seduction arts should have some material for us, amid the dross of the online braindead.

• The best way for a beautiful woman to express approval of Red Quest is by spreading legs, but, for everyone else, there is becoming a paid subscriber. That’s how you most authentically signal that you’d like more Red Quest. Second to that, consider liking and commenting.