Favorite tactic: girls on dates [FR]

They're already in the right frame of mind

I dunno why, but I've had an eye for girls waiting on dates and especially girls on bad dates, and I like trying sneaky shit like telling girls, "You look bored waiting for your date." One typical openers at a bar when I see a lone girl clearly waiting for someone is, "You must be waiting for a date. Think it'll be any good?" Sometimes they're waiting for a husband or boyfriend… but sometimes they're not, and it's a good quick icebreaker that starts with a quick sexual frame that isn't gross.

This isn't exactly an [FR], though it has some [FR] elements.

One memorable example was in a coffee shop. There was an older but still slender and tight blonde woman who I pegged to be in her late 30s to early 40s. She was with a super nerdy, overweight and balding guy who was talking to her about programming and explaining his bitcoin company to her. I thought he was pretty interesting but her body language was so obvious that you'd have to be blind (or a total nerd I suppose) to miss it.

He got up to use the bathroom. I turned to her and said, "I can see your date isn't going well. How's online dating?" She said it wasn't very good. I was like, "That's too bad. Here, write down your number quickly and we'll go out. No bitcoin talk, I promise."

Got the number and said, "You're a former dancer, right?" She said, "How'd you know?" It's obvious but I guess most guys are dumb. Guy came back and I studiously read my book.

(The term is I think "cold read," where you guess something about a person. If they say no, you can ask a followup question about them, and if they say yes they think you're a brilliant person. Sherlock Holmes stories are filled with such things. Con men and "psychics" also use this technique. Smart people know how to see through it but it can be powerful in the moment even to smart people, and if someone is open to being seduced, wellllll. . . .)

We went out two days later. She told me that she wanted to find someone to have kids with, and I told her honestly that I'm the wrong person for that, but I'm the right person to see in the meantime. Through the date I could see her struggle with her principle (only guys who might give her a last-ditch shot at children) with her desire (sex is still fun).

I calibrated towards being a physically oriented sex guy. It's bad to lead on older women who want kids with the promise of monogamy and kids. They have only a limited period of time to have kids and it's unethical to deprive them of that chance, and the spinster is a sad, tragic character. Yes, women do many unethical things to men, but I still believe that having kids is one of the most important things a person can do, and even if women have mis-prioritized their lives they should still get their shot. Some things that most consider unethical are, properly considered, ethical, like sleeping with women who are married or have boyfriends (another thing I like to do). But, with a woman who wants kids, it's fine to say I'm not a kid guy and they should have fun in the meantime till they meet the kid guy.

We talked about dancing and her barre routine, lots of fitness things, and they explain why she was in good shape for her age. I have been in this situation before, and some women who want kids fast thank me for my honesty and say no. Good for them. I hope they have kids. This one bit and we saw each other a few times... at the end of the affair she broke down crying saying that she wanted me and that the only guys who wanted her were guys she didn't want. I felt bad for her but to be honest that's the kind of dumb shit I expect to hear from 23-year-old girls, not women in their 30s or 40s. She is old enough to know better but, like so many people, she wants contradictory things and can't reconcile those things. She'd likely wasted her youth and fertility partying, dancing, f**king alpha chads, etc. While that is tragic I can't give her her youth back. Sorry, babe.

Smart women prioritize having children and a family. Dumb ones get caught up chasing chads.

Like a lot of women, she wants children and a long-term relationship, but she'll settle for sex right now, especially when she's frustrated by a guy without game who she met online. It’s dangerous to raw dog older women who want kids. But what is life without some risk?